Good commentary on Senkaku’s . I do not know if Taiwan or Japan owns them but it most definitely is not China who does.
To Ooda wrote:
.”Your whole lie is based on your statement that ROC has “determined” Diaoyutai islands belong to Japan in the Potsdan Declarations. And you wrote two long, windy paragraphs to smoke and mirror this one fact that was a lie created by you, Ooda”
If Chaing Kai-Shek turned down the offer of the Senkau islands from the US, then did not the ROC thus make a ‘Determiation’ that they didn’t want them?
The US had no interest in keeping these islands, and as the real power that won World War 2 in the Pcific, the US then ‘Determined to give these islands to Japanese Administration, after the ROK leader Chaing Kai-Shek made it clear he had no interest in these rocks in the sea!
OODA da LOOP
Since the ROK Chaing ‘Determined’ he had no interest, then the US and Britain were left to ‘Determine’ the islands would be placed under administration by Japan in Treaty of San Francisco in 1951!
Again, who’s fault was in not accepting the islands in the first place when offered to ROK leader? The islands were offered back to Japan only after your generalissimo said no! And PRC was yet not recognized as a sovereign state until years later!
First, PRC wasn’t recognized until October 25th, 1971 as the legitimate political power to represent China(s)! Therefore, you claims of not being included by US in Treaty of San Francisco is groundless as being illegal!
It’s not illegal when the PRC was never considered an independent government until the UN passed resolution 2758 on October 25th, 1971 officially recognizing the PRC as a government. From 1949 to 1971 the PRC was still considered an illegitimate power with no rights under UN……………………..that’s the trouble with civil war……………………………….it takes time to become legitimate power after much infighting!
The PRC had no say in Treaty of San Francisco of 1951 because the PRC wasn’t recognized until 1971 in the United Nations as a sovereign state!
Same reason why PRC cannot claim anything in Cairo Declaration of 1943, or Potsdam Declaration of 1945 because the communists didn’t take power until 1949! Or are you guys going to say the Agreement has the words ‘People’s Republic of China’ in the Potsdan Declaration instead of the words ‘Republic of China!’
PRC saying US ‘determination’ was illegal need to understand the PRC had no say in the matter because PRC wasn’t accepted as independent state until 1971 in the UN! Until then you were considered a rogue country…………………….kinda like Somalia today!
So try again about legality of Treaty of San Francisco in 1951 as PRC only became recognized twenty years later in the United Nations!
Jackie
To the person stating the Okinawa Reversion Agreement of 1971. The treaty was signed on June 17th, 1971 between the US and Japan and the PRC again wasn’t recognized as a sovereign power until October 25th, 1971 when the United Nations passed resolution 2758.
Since the PRC wasn’t recognized at the time as legitimate, then nothing is illegal regarding the PRC objections of the Treaty of San Francisco or the Okinawa Revision Agreement, as the PRC had no recognition as a sovereign independent state until Oct of1971! After, these Treaty and Agreements were already completed at the UNSC and is on record!
You can’t have a legitimate complaint about legality, when your not even a legitimate country by the United Nations!
From 1885 on, surveys of the Senkaku Islands had been thoroughly made by the Government of Japan through the agencies of Okinawa Prefecture and by way of other methods. Through these surveys, it was confirmed that the Senkaku Islands had been uninhabited and showed no trace of having been under the control of China. Based on this confirmation, the Government of Japan made a Cabinet Decision on 14 January 1895 to erect a marker on the Islands to formally incorporate the Senkaku Islands into the territory of Japan.
Since then, the Senkaku Islands have continuously remained as an integral part of the Nansei Shoto Islands which are the territory of Japan. These islands were neither part of Taiwan nor part of the Pescadores Islands which were ceded to Japan from the Qing Dynasty of China in accordance with Article II of the Treaty of Shimonoseki which came into effect in May of 1895.
Accordingly, the Senkaku Islands are not included in the territory which Japan renounced under Article II of the San Francisco Peace Treaty. The Senkaku Islands have been placed under the administration of the United States of America as part of the Nansei Shoto Islands, in accordance with Article III of the said treaty, and are included in the area, the administrative rights over which were reverted to Japan in accordance with the Agreement Between Japan and the United States of America Concerning the Ryukyu Islands and the Daito Islands signed on 17 June 1971. The facts outlined herein clearly indicate the status of the Senkaku Islands being part of the territory of Japan.
The fact that China expressed no objection to the status of the Islands being under the administration of the United States under Article III of the San Francisco Peace Treaty clearly indicates that China did not consider the Senkaku Islands as part of Taiwan. It was not until the latter half of 1970, when the question of the development of petroleum resources on the continental shelf of the East China Sea came to the surface, that the Government of China and Taiwan authorities began to raise questions regarding the Senkaku Islands.
Furthermore, none of the points raised by the Government of China as “historic, geographic or geological” evidence provide valid grounds, in light of international law, to support China’s arguments regarding the Senkaku Islands.
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